HM 1 s HM 2

Arashi

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Hallo Leute,
ich bin die Tage bei einer Diskussion nach langem mal wieder auf Harnmaster gestossten. Jetzt hab ich grade mal die (toll geschriebene) Vorstellung hier gelesen.
Ich hab scheinbar die Version HM1 ... jedenfalls ist das Buch von 1991 und es steht nichts widersprüchliches drauf.

Da wollte ich mal fragen, wie ist denn der Unterschied zwischen der 1. und der neuen, einfacheren Version?
Ist er groß oder nur eine Anpassung oder wie? Oder hat sich grundlegendes geändert?
 
AW: HM 1 s HM 2

Hallo, ich kenne beides nicht, habe aber mal für dich gegoogelt:


3. What are the differences between 1st and 2nd edition HârnMaster?

Here is a brief summary of the most important changes so far between second and first edition HârnMaster (HM3 is merely an extension and or/refinement of HM2):

* Character pre-game generation and some appearance characteristics are not included in HMII (but could be added trivially).
* HMII has an optional rule for creating characters on a point system.
* The Touch and Speed attributes are removed, and Stamina is added.
* Endurance is now the average of Strength, Will, and Stamina.
* Players are now encouraged to select professions from a short list; the full table of professions is still available.
* Monthly skill development rolls are combined with an optional skill decline rule using Skill Maintenance Points (SMP’s).
* Fatigue, Injury, and Encumbrance are now counted in Levels, each of which is approximately equivalent to 5 Points in HMI.
* Since combat produces one Fatigue Level every 5 minutes, (longer than most battles), bookkeeping during combat is easier.
* Injury Levels are determined directly from the combat table, instead of requiring a separate die roll as in HMI.
* Weapon Attack and Defence Class is combined with Attack and Defence ML’s, eliminating two table lookups in combat.
* Each Convocation is now a skill with a separate Mastery Level (CML) and SB. Known spells are cast at CML-(spell level * 5), rather than being separate skills. HMII has an optional rule for spells as skills as in HMI.
* There are no special SB penalties for secondary, tertiary, and diametric Convocations.
* Spell research, learning a new Convocation, and becoming a Gray Mage are all changed to fit the new Convocational model.
* Initial CML depends on your Chantry’s quality rating.
* All spells cost the same amount of fatigue to cast, based on success level. CS: 0 FL, MS: 1 FL, MF: 1 FL, CF: 2+ FL.
* CML development depends on Skill Maintenance Points. Research, study, and *stressful* spell casting gives extra SMP’s.
* Divine Grace—characters with Piety Points greater than their Ritual ML are in Divine Grace which gives certain benefits. Dying without Divine Grace causes problems in the Afterlife.
* Optional rule that Piety Points can be used in prayer to directly alter EML on any single skill roll.
* Ritual ML for each deity uses different attributes and sunsigns.
* RML may only be increased by learning invocations, reading Holy Tomes, and stressful invocations.
* Cleric starting skills are adjusted.
* Starting clerics begin with Piety Points equal to WILx5.
* Ritual Invocations are no longer tied to Circles of Command.
* Invocations may be learned by anyone in the right circumstances.
* Ritual Invocations are no longer separate skills, though each must be learned separately. ML equals RML – (Circle x 5). An optional rule reverts to the HMI rule of separate skills.
* Ritual Invocations do not require Piety Point expenditure, though it helps. An optional rule sets Piety Point costs dependant on success level.
* Rules describing ethereals is expanded and clarified.
* New rules regarding the afterlife and fate of a character’s soul.
* The various church articles are tighter, with some new material.
* Each church is given unique Ritual Invocations.
* New rules for tribal religions.

Quelle: H (scrollen)
 
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ohne mich durch die englischsprachige differenzierung zu kämpfen hier zwei links:
1. timos gegenüberstellung: harniccorner. er hat im punkt "vergleich editionen" die wichtigen unterschiede da ganz fein herausgearbeitet
und
2. hier meine ´kurzregeln´, die grundsätzlich erst mal auf (den deutschen) HM1 basieren, die vereinfachung von HM3 dennoch weitestgehend einpflegen, außer bei den shek pvar. im link die die punkte 2 bis 4: harniac
 
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